Quotes From Dhyan Vimal

Thursday, December 6, 2007

Wednesday, December 5, 2007

Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Love is born when the self is not - Dhyan Vimal


Love is born when the self is not,
When the self is, love is not,

When this is known , you will see that you are
Nothing but love, this inexhaustible energy,
That comes for no where and returns to nowhere.

The self is nothing but just the reflection of this in a space and time with exist just as a memory and an unreal form.

This unreal form creates a reality that will support its aliveness
Without this realities it cant exist,
Thus the reality and the self are two side of the same coin.

Knowing this duality, totally,
When this perception of this duality is total
The self just slips away
And love take aboard.

Now the work at hand, the sacred act that has to perform is
To be aware of this duality , that keep this self alive
Thus killing the birth of love in you.

Finding the space and time to be aware of this is meditation and the personal sacred act you can perform.

Sunday, November 4, 2007

Q & A With Dhyan Vimal And The Mastery Knowledge

Question & Answer Session With Modern Day Enlightened Man, Dhyan Vimal & His Mastery Knowledge.

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Saturday, November 3, 2007

Embracing Change - How to Work with the Dynamics Underlying Change By DV

The foundation of change, when embraced, will reflect the truth of living. "Living is only possible when change can be embraced in a state of substance and bliss". This basic misunderstanding has caused people to live without change and this simple fact changes them in a negative way.Join Dhyan Vimal an realize the power behind change.

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Speaker's topic on finding direction to fill life's holes..Dhyan Vimal

Dhyan Vimal, in Canada on a book tour, stops in Burnaby this week for Rotary luncheon. By EmptyBowl.

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Sunday, October 21, 2007

THE AWARENESS INTO MASTERY - DHYAN VIMAL

1. The First Awareness

To be aware of where you are, and to know where you can be.

2. The Second Awareness

What I have to do, What I can do, What I am willing to do.

3. The Third Awareness

How I deny doing that which I should do and can do?

4. The Fourth Awareness

Recognition of one's strength

5. The Fifth Awareness

The recognition of the determiner and the failure to do so.

6. The Sixth Awareness

The awareness of how you see yourself

7. The Seventh Awareness

The awareness of that which you are creating, willing, moving towards, to that which you want to be.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007

Malaysian master to offer 'tangible' teachings-Dhyan Vimal Speaks In Canada

After a couple of years teaching in India, former Whistlerite Janet Love Morrison had seen enough “false gurus” with followers from the West to know when she stumbled upon something, and someone, that was genuine -someone who was sharing something she wanted to learn.Click the link for more story. By EmptyBowl

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Sunday, October 7, 2007

Superb Links To Master Dhyan Vimal's Talk

Get to know more about Master DHyan Vimal from Malaysia, A Modern Day Master. By EmptyBowl.

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The Power To Determine Your Own Destiny - The Risen State, By Dhyan Vimal

Talk By Master Dhyan Vimal, A Modern Day Enlightened Master on the power to determine your own destiny, The Risen State to his students and disciple in Malaysia. By EmptyBowl

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Monday, May 21, 2007

Gurdjieff Quotes

It always seems to people that others invariably do things wrongly, not in the way they should be done. Everybody always thinks he could do it better. They do not understand, and do not want to understand, that what is being done, and particularly what has already been done in one way, cannot be, and could not have been, done in another way.
------------Gurdjieff------------

Satsang with Master

Prem means love, satsang means a communion with the Master -- a loving communion with the Master. Sannyas is a declaration from your side that you are ready to receive. If the door is knocked on you are ready to open it. If you are called forth you will not hesitate. If some risk is to be taken you will not only take it, you will take it willingly. And then communion starts. Communion means a state of love between the Master and the disciple where all conflict has been dropped. It is the ultimate in a love affair. Lovers fight, but the disciple and the Master live in such a communion that there is no fight, no question of fight; there is no argumentation. The disciple simply drops all his logic, all his mind, all his ideologies, all his past. He simply cleanses his heart. He says, "I am nobody and I am here.
Pour into me whatsoever you want to pour into me, make whatsoever you want to make of me -- I will not resist." Once this has started happening, miracles follow. And the Master has not to do a thing -- that is the beauty of it. The disciple just has to be receptive, and without any doing on the Master's part things start happening. The Master is a constantly available presence -- just as the sun is. You open your eyes and your eyes are full of light. The sun has not to do anything in particular. It was already light; you were just keeping your eyes closed. The sun was already showering its treasures on you, but for you it was all darkness. You open your eyes and you are full of light.

The Master is a presence; the Master is not a doer. The real Master never does a thing but his presence functions as a catalytic agent. Much happens through his non-doing. That is the paradox of the existence of a Master: without doing, much happens. So the whole thing depends really on the disciple: if he is receptive things start happening; if he is not receptive nothing happens. When nothing happens he throws the responsibility on the Master. The Master cannot do anything against you. In fact he cannot do anything because it is not a question of doing at all; it is simply a question of receiving, of taking it in. That is the meaning of satsang: to be in the presence of the Master, in a loving communion.

It is a very special word -- it cannot be translated into any Western language, because nothing like this has ever happened there; it is uniquely Eastern. In fact, the relationship between a disciple and a Master is an Eastern phenomenon, a contribution of the East to the world of consciousness. In the West, at the most, the teacher and the student exist. The teacher teaches, the student learns. The Master is not a teacher; the Master simply imparts, shares, and the disciple imbibes drinks. It is on a totally different plane. The student and the teacher communicate; the communication is verbal. It is a dialogue, it is transmitting some information. The teacher knows and the student does not know; he collects information, he becomes more knowledgeable. It is a transfer of knowledge. Between a Master and a disciple the question is not of knowledge but of being

Not that the Master knows more than the disciple -- sometimes it happens that the disciple may know more, but knowledge is not the question at all. The Master is more than the disciple, not that he knows more. He has more being, he has more soul. It is not a question of his memory, that he has more information fed in his memory cells, no. It is a question of his existence; he has a totally different kind of existence -- integrated, centered, rooted. The teacher has knowledge, the Master knows. Knowledge means about and about.
The Master has perception, his own experience. He does not know about God -- he knows God, he is God! When you know about, you remain different from the knowledge, separate from the knowledge. When you know God then the knower and the known become one. The Master is divine. He has not known God as a separate entity; he has recognized God as his own innermost core... not as the known, but as the knower, as a witness of all. He has being. Being cannot be learned. Knowledge can be learned; being has only to be drunk.
That is satsang: the disciple drinks. The Master is like alcohol; the disciple becomes more and more drunk, more and more drunk. The disciple slowly slowly abandons himself completely; he forgets all about himself. In that forgetfulness he remembers for the first time who he is, because that which was forgotten was only the personality, and now arises the essence, the soul, the being.
In the East for thousands of years this special phenomenon has been in existence: the disciple sits by the side of the Master, just imbibing. Just being with him is enough -- just to pulsate with him, vibrate with him, sway with him, just to have a dance with his being. This is not communication; this is communion. It is not from mind to mind; it is from heart to heart, it is from soul to soul. It is immediate.
Sometimes words may be used but they are just devices.
Sometimes silences may be used; they are also devices. But that which is important is something so mysterious that no word can contain it. The very look of the Master's eyes in your eyes, the very touch of his being, the very touch of his presence, is enough to stir something that is fast asleep in you. The Master awakes you. His only message -- conveyed through words, through silences, through love -- is simple and single: Wake up!

Excerpt from Osho's Book.

Thursday, April 12, 2007

Osho's reply on People Who Betray Their Master

Beloved Osho,
In a book I read about Gurdjieff, it was said that two of his disciples, who had been with him for a long time and in a very intimate way - for example, de Hartmann, who played his music - suddenly left him.
Can you explain why this seems to happen again and again in the master-disciple relationship?


Turiya, the question is something of deep significance and with profound implications. It is something in the very nature of things that this kind of thing happens again and again, and will continue to happen again and again; it cannot be stopped.

De Hartmann lived with George Gurdjieff for perhaps the longest period of any of his other disciples, perhaps forty years or more. He was a great genius as far as music is concerned, and he was playing music for special meditations, which Gurdjieff had devised. The music was also devised by Gurdjieff; de Hartmann had to bring the device into reality.

Gurdjieff was a strange master, everything about him had the quality of strangeness. He himself was not a musician, but he understood what kind of vibrations could create certain states in man. His understanding was about man, his meditation, his mind, the possibility of his receiving certain vibrations and being affected by them.

He would explain his whole program to de Hartmann, and de Hartmann had become such an expert that he would make it a reality. But de Hartmann was not a disciple --this was where the trouble arose. He had come to George Gurdjieff to be a disciple, but his genius about music took him on a different route: rather than being a disciple, he became an associate. He started working for Gurdjieff insofar as he needed music for his special dances, and he forgot completely why he had come. Gurdjieff reminded him many times: "de Hartmann, you are a perfect master as far as music is concerned, but you had not come here to play music. And now your ego is feeling so fulfilled and contented that you don't want to sit among the disciples. You have forgotten that your basic motive was not to play music here."

The separation was bound to happen one day, because finally Gurdjieff became very hard. And he said to de Hartmann, "You have to stop music completely, because music has become a barrier. Your music has helped others tremendously, but for yourself it has become a barrier. You stop music completely! Burn all your musical instruments." This was too much for de Hartmann. He was not an ordinary musician.
He left Gurdjieff rather than leave music.

And because he had lived for forty years with George Gurdjieff, and had remained in a very intimate relationship... but not as a disciple, remember -- that was forgotten; that was why the problem arose. The intimacy was because of the music; Gurdjieff needed a musician. He was taking his disciples around the world, showing people the immense effect of vibrations. In New York, in one of his shows, the disciples were dancing...

They have to dance intensely and totally; they have to forget the whole world. But if the music stops, then they have to stop in whatever position they are in -- if the hand is up, it remains up; if their eyes are open, they remain open, they don't blink -- a total stop. If one leg is up in dancing, it remains where it is.

And when the dance came to its climax, he gave the indication to de Hartmann to stop. As the music stopped, every dancer had to stop -- just like statues, as if suddenly they had become marble statues, no movement.

It is a tremendous experience. In that gap, when all movement has stopped, you simply feel your existence, your isness.

But when he said to de Hartmann to stop... the dancers were moving in a certain round and they were so close to the edge of the stage that with the sudden stop, one dancer fell from the stage. Because there was no way, you could not do anything -- whatever happened, happened, you had to stop. On top of him, another dancer fell. A whole line of dancers went on falling from the stage, as if they were dead bodies.

The people who had seen that show could not believe... the silence of the disciples, their becoming centered, created a new vibration. Even the people in the audience who had no idea of any meditation certainly felt a new breeze, a silence surrounding them, and a peacefulness.

For years, the intelligentsia of New York talked about the dance. They could not believe what had happened; it was simply sheer magic. But nothing happened to de Hartmann. He was just a technician: he played the music he was an expert -- and when the indication was given he stopped it.

But he remained in close proximity to Gurdjieff for forty years, and people naturally thought that he was a disciple, and a very close disciple. And when he left Gurdjieff, he maintained the illusion -- perhaps he himself was in the illusion -- that he was a disciple, that he had learned everything that Gurdjieff knows... forty years is enough. That's why he went to America to open his own school.

A desire to become a master is a simple ego number.His statement, Turiya, when he said to people, "You are more important to me than Mr. Gurdjieff," is simply shameful -- but this is the category of the Judas.In every master's life there are bound to be Judases. It seems to be the law of nature that the people who come to a master don't come with the same motivation. A few come to seek the truth, a few come to learn how to be a master.

In the life of Basho, one of the great mystics of Japan, there is a beautiful incident. He was sitting with his disciples and a man came and he said, "I also want to join." Basho said, "There is no barrier; the doors are open, you can join. But let me tell you: disciplehood is an arduous thing. Are you ready for it, or is it just curiosity? If it is just curiosity then don't waste your time, because soon you will have to leave. If it is a sincere search that you are ready to stake everything -- life included -- only then can you be a disciple."

The man said, "I am not prepared. I never thought that to be a disciple costs so much." And then he said, "Then what about the master? -- I can become the master. If it is easier, then I can drop the idea of being a disciple; I can become the master."

Basho said, "We will not prevent you from being a master, but unless one has passed through the arduous path of disciplehood, one cannot be a master -- although it is very easy. If there was some back door, I would have allowed you in. But there is no back door; you will have to come through the right channel of being a disciple."

The man said, "Then I will think it over, and I will come again," and he never came again. A few people simply come to the masters because they see a certain dimension of fulfillment for their ego, their ambition. To them, it is the same: to have power, prestige, respectability, richness, or to be a great master with thousands of disciples. They have no desire to know the truth, no search for knowing oneself. To them, to be a master is just like any other ambitious project of the world -- to be a rich man, to be a politician, to be a prime minister, to be a governor. And you cannot prevent them, because sometimes when they come and they try to understand, they change. They see that when they came they had come with a wrong motive, but now that motive has been dropped. So they cannot be prevented from the very beginning... and one never knows when they will change; it may take years.
The master has to be patient. But these people are in a hurry, because life is slipping out of their hands.

Judas betrayed Jesus not for any other reason. It was not for thirty silver coins that he betrayed Jesus; he betrayed Jesus because he was the only educated disciple. He was more educated and cultured than Jesus himself. Moving with Jesus, seeing his teachings, he could easily visualize himself as a great master, greater than Jesus: "Because this man is simply a carpenter's son, knows nothing much; still he has created a great stir in the country."

It was a very simple arithmetic: Judas could see that if this man is removed, he can prove himself to be a great master; but if this man is alive he will always remain a disciple. Either he had to revolt against him and create a totally different following, which is more arduous... This was far better, if Jesus could be removed in some way. And Judas was bound to be the leader, with an established following. It is just like a shop with a credibility of hundreds of years -- rather than opening a new shop... You may be offering better things to the world, but still, the old name has a credibility, an established credibility. The competition is going to be tough and very difficult. The best way is somehow get the name of the old shop -- just old bottles filled with new wine. Nobody bothers about the wine, everybody looks at the bottle -- but the bottle has to be old. The old bottle is the proof of old wine. Simple logic...

And to remove Jesus was easy, because the Jews were after him and things could be done in such a way that nobody would ever know that Judas had done it.
But he forgot one thing: nobody would ever know that Judas had done it, but how can Judas forget it? That realization came only later on. That realization came only when Jesus was crucified. Judas was in the crowd. He could not believe that he had done this -- just to become a master, he had betrayed a friend, a master who loved him, trusted him. And now he forgot all about the old ego trip. Something new that he had never thought about, a great repentance, a guilt... within twenty-four hours he committed suicide. De Hartmann was not a disciple at all, but he knew certain techniques that Gurdjieff was practicing with disciples. He had become a technician. Because he had to supply the music to every technique, he knew the techniques in every detail -- but he had never practiced them; his work was to supply the music.
But this is how the mind deceives you. Your own mind leads you astray.

De Hartmann could not prove himself to be a master -- without Gurdjieff, the music fell flat. He knew the technique, he knew the music, but he was not aware that the technique, the music, all were alive because of the living presence of a master. He was only a technician.

That is the difference between a technician and a master. Now if something goes wrong with the electricity any technician can come and fix it, but that does not mean that he is Edison who discovered electricity. Although he knows everything, he is not Edison. That master touch will be missing.

It took three years for Edison to discover electricity. He started with many colleagues and students -- he was a professor. And by and by, because every experiment went on failing, people started deserting him: "He seems to be mad, he is trying to do something impossible. Hundreds of experiments have failed, but that man seems to be strange... every day, early in the morning, he comes back to the lab with the same enthusiasm, the same zest." All his colleagues were feeling that it would be better to do something else -- "We are wasting our time." They were all frustrated. Except for Edison, nobody had any enthusiasm, and within three years all his colleagues and students had left.

But Edison continued, and one night at three o'clock... the whole night he had been working, because he was coming so close. And that was his logic -- he was saying to his colleagues, "Don't desert me; you are deserting at the wrong time. We have tried hundreds of experiments and they have all failed. That means that the one experiment which is going to succeed is coming closer. Finally we will sort it out. We are dropping those which are going to fail, they are not on our list anymore. The list is becoming shorter -- soon we will be able to find the right method." They said, "Three years have been wasted, and we cannot imagine how long this `soon' is going to take."

And that night he started to feel from the very beginning of the evening that he was coming closer: "Things are fitting; the puzzle is to be settled tonight." He went on and on and on, and by three o'clock he saw the first electric bulb. It was so much light! No human eye had ever seen it before; people had seen only candles. His wife was sleeping in the other room. She had been calling him again and again -- "It is time to go to sleep." He said, "Not tonight; you just go to sleep and don't disturb me. I am so close, and I don't want to miss. Tomorrow things may be different, I may have forgotten something. Today I cannot leave it."

At three o'clock, suddenly the light... It was almost like lightning in the house. The wife said, "You idiot, put that light out! Neither are you going to sleep nor will you allow me to sleep. And from where did you get this light?" And he was sitting with unblinking eyes in a state of awe... unbelievable! It has happened!

And the poor woman was saying, "Turn the light off." He said, "This light is never going to be turned off. Now it is going to be on forever and ever." Now every electrician knows -- but he is only a technician, he is not an Edison. He can fall into the illusion that he is also as knowledgeable as Edison himself, but the charisma is not there, the genius is not there. Those miracle-making hands are not there.

De Hartmann tried hard in America, because in America Gurdjieff had been such a success. He went through the same cities giving the same shows, but everything fell flat. He could not figure out what was wrong -- because the songs were the same, the dances were the same, the music was the same, the musician was the same... "And that man Gurdjieff was not doing anything, he was simply standing there. All that he used to do was to tell me, `Stop!' Just that much, anybody can do. And I myself know at what point he used to say stop, so I stop myself at those points, exactly at those points -- but the magic is not there."

He forgot that he had never been a disciple -- and he had become a master! He forgot that he had been only a musician. If he had remembered that he was only a musician --and in that too, he was brought to such refinement by Gurdjieff, not by himself -- things would have been different.

Turiya, the same thing happened with Ouspensky, who was really a disciple.
De Hartmann can be simply cancelled; he was never a disciple. But Ouspensky was a disciple, and one of the foremost disciples. But again, something took him away, and that something was similar to de Hartmann's music -- that was Ouspensky's intelligence. He was a world-famous mathematician, a great writer. Even before meeting Gurdjieff he was known all over the world. Nobody knew Gurdjieff.

In fact, it was Ouspensky who made Gurdjieff's name known to the world; the whole credit goes to Ouspensky. In this whole century there has not been another writer of the same caliber. He writes with such authority, with such beauty -- and that became his fall, because Gurdjieff became famous through his books.

Gurdjieff was not a writer; he had no special talent which is recognized by the world. He was purely a master. He could transform human beings, their consciousness, but that is not an art recognized by the world.

And when Ouspensky saw that he had made Gurdjieff world-famous, why should he bother? He knew everything about what Gurdjieff was teaching, he had written everything; through him the whole world knew about the teaching of Gurdjieff... "I myself can teach." He started a school in London. And such ungratefulness... he would not use Gurdjieff's full name; he would simply call him "G". Just to avoid the full name, Gurdjieff, he would use only the first letter, G.

And he made it clear to his students, that "Gurdjieff was right as long as I was with him. I left him because he started going wrong. So his teaching is valid till I left him -- beyond that, it has no significance."

But he was just a schoolteacher, a professor, with no aura of a master. It was really ridiculous to see him pretending to be a master, because even in teaching higher principles of consciousness he was using a blackboard. Just the old habit of being a mathematician... So he would write on the blackboard, as if the people who had gathered were students. He would not look into anybody's eyes. He was not an impressive personality. He would have been perfectly good as a professor in a university, but to be a master, to belong to the category of Gautam Buddha, Gurdjieff and Krishnamurti, is a totally different matter. He tried hard, but he could not manage anything; nothing happened.

And you will be surprised to know that the whole world condemned Gurdjieff, nobody condemned Ouspensky, nobody condemned de Hartmann. In fact, they had nothing worth condemning either. Gurdjieff had a teaching, a methodology to transform humanity.

But these persons wanted to be masters. Seeing the power of Gurdjieff, they became power hungry. Seeing his influence, they started feeling inferior; they wanted to move away and create their own sphere of influence. They all failed.
So it seems to be in the very nature of things that this will go on happening. Wherever there will be a master, there will be Judases, Ouspenskys, de Hartmanns.
With Mahavira there was Goshalak.

With each great teacher, these people have followed like shadows -- hungry for power.But to be a master is not an ego game. The power of the master is not of the power of the ego; it is the power of his humbleness, it is the power of his nothingness.

So these people will continue to happen, but they don't make even a dent in human evolution. They simply spoil their own life and a great opportunity that was given to them.

Osho

Thursday, March 29, 2007

Sunday, March 25, 2007

What Dhyan Vimal Stands For?

  1. I Stand For Love And Togetherness
  2. I Stand For Friendship And Co-operation
  3. I Stand For Non-violent Success And Non-abusive Abundance
  4. I Stand For Respect For All Religions, Races And Beliefs
  5. I Stand For Freedom On The Personal And The Global
  6. I Stand For Mastery And Meditation
  7. I Stand For You And Me
  8. ABOVE ALL I STAND FOR TRUTH

Saturday, March 24, 2007

Dhyan Vimal - Biography

Born in a small fishing village off the East coast of Malaysia, Dhyan Vimal (DV) lived a childhood of simple means. His parents were traditional Indian second generation immigrants. Throughout his childhood, DV was never interested in the normal pursuits of boys his own age. This situation left this child spending most of his time in solitude but also the complete centre of attraction because of his penchant for being a great storyteller where he attracted and would be surrounded by the customers at his grandfather’s shop. The first most profound experience that he remembers was at this time, at he age of six when an experience, a taste of the beyond experiences.
This DV later came to recognize as the first satori. However his mother has related an earlier occasion at the age of four when he had another experience. Never one for the academics, DV spent most of his time on his own.. swimming, fishing the seas, away from the eyes of the ever watchful mother.
Towards early adulthood, DV left the village to further his studies in the city of Kuala Lumpur where he was in a situation in which he was totally dependent on himself for a living. From the age of 16 to 25, this was the time when he was really searching, a dark period of self-dependence. This period yielded a few interesting and important moments. One was a meeting with an old rishi who had resided in the Himalayas for many years and had only come back because he was dying and his family wanted him to. DV didn’t know or recognize the significance of his meeting with kindly, old man. All that it meant at that time was that this old man placed his hands on DV’s head and said, “What I have, I pass on to you…” Another interesting time was when DV would eat at a certain restaurant everyday. As this was the time when he was alone, he was always short of money.
This was where he met a yogi whose family ran the shop. He described this yogi as someone who looked very clean and had a glowing presence. The yogi would always promise that DV did not have to pay if he would sit and talk to him. DV has said that the yogi would sit with him and look into his eyes, laugh and say, “You’ll do this.” One event which was very important to DV was a mystical experience he had at Lumut, a small coastal town in Malaysia. Up to this point DV had not decide to teach and speak on these subjects but the occasion and the events led to his decision to seriously do this work. This was the beginning of the teachings of Mastery.
In 1988 for reasons known only to him, DV decided to take on sannyas. Despite being with many Masters this was when he received the name of Dhyan Vimal from Osho. After this he began teaching small groups of students and spent many years doing so. Life mainly consisted of hours spent in solitude. For many years, DV would spend his time alone, always sitting silently. Sometimes he would go fishing which is often his time of preparation for classes. At the age of 26, DV attained the first state of Samadhi. This was after years of studying, practice and a life devoted to this path. This was the point where things started clearing and we saw beginning of Mastery and meditation. DV began many different teachings, implementing meditation into life, students of meditation began coming, most of the students who came then are still here with Master. From this point, he began creating and modifying many trainings which have come to a point of perfection in the Four Disciplines today.
In 1994, just before a state of enlightenment, DV taught a miraculous class in a resort. To quote a statement made by a participant who became a student after this meeting, she said, “When he walked in, I felt like I was looking at a prince walking into the room, the room was bright and shining and filled with him and his magnitude.” Briefly after that Master said that the ‘I” was no more. This is what we later came to know as enlightenment.
What he wrote down and created the is Discipline One, known today as the Master Training. Today Master has created a simple system, The Four Disciplines, so meditation is for you and me, for us who live this life, in this world. For us who are here, now in this moment, in this mad, chaotic, exciting, crazy life. ....Biography extracted from http://www.dhyanvimal.com/